Can humanitarian aid ever be called a crime? Last week, it certainly was when a federal judge in Arizona found four No More Deaths volunteers guilty of trespassing on the Cabeza Prieta National Wildlife Refuge. The volunteers were there providing food, water, and other humanitarian aid supplies to migrants making the often deadly crossing from Mexico to the United States. When No More Deaths volunteer Max Granger visited the KZMU studios in December, we mostly talked about his new narrative nonfiction piece, “From Solitaire to Solidarity” which deals with his work on the border, white privilege, and racism. In light of these recent guilty verdicts, we’re re-airing parts of that conversation on today’s Get An Earful, including some segments never before broadcast.